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Hardware support => Moteino => Topic started by: sntlewis on January 10, 2014, 08:38:40 AM

Title: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: sntlewis on January 10, 2014, 08:38:40 AM
I thought I'd ask before I went into creating one.

Does anyone have an Eagle Library Package for the Moteino?  I'm needing to create a larger PCB with the Moteino as part of it.  I'd like to put as much as possible with headers.  While this won't be a "shield" per se, think in those terms.

Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: priority on January 10, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
I'm not an Eagle expert by any means, but for a similar challenge (see: http://lowpowerlab.com/forum/index.php/topic,240.0.html (http://lowpowerlab.com/forum/index.php/topic,240.0.html)), I started by (1) copying the R4 schematic and board layout, (2) adding the additional components I needed for my design to the R4 schematic, and (3) modifying the board layout to suit my purposes.   
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on January 10, 2014, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: priority on January 10, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
I'm not an Eagle expert by any means, but for a similar challenge (see: http://lowpowerlab.com/forum/index.php/topic,240.0.html (http://lowpowerlab.com/forum/index.php/topic,240.0.html)), I started by (1) copying the R4 schematic and board layout, (2) adding the additional components I needed for my design to the R4 schematic, and (3) modifying the board layout to suit my purposes.   

That's a great start!
BTW the 1x13 headers are 800 mils apart.
And you can extract all the parts used in a schematic/layout using one of the ULPs in Eagle (can't remember which).
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: sntlewis on January 11, 2014, 07:24:55 AM
working on an EagleCAD libary for Moteino R4..  Makes my life easier.

Will post back when reasonable complete.
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: ColinR on October 08, 2014, 05:59:23 PM
Any update here? I'm about to dig into this for a PCB, also considering Mega USB.

C
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: TomWS on October 31, 2014, 08:03:35 AM
I understood this question to be an eagle library for Moteino as a module.  If you use Moteino as a module on another PCB, which is what I'm about to start, it would be very useful if there was a schematic symbol (admittedly easy to do), with a corresponding package footprint (not difficult, but having a proven package increases the confidence level).

Does anyone have one of those to share?

If not, I'll post one when I make my own.  I should mention that I need to include the Aref, Ant, and Gnd (near the Aref pin) in the footprint - the other pads are easy, precisely aligning with these pads is my concern.

Tom
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on October 31, 2014, 08:47:40 AM
Tom, in the nick of time - you could simply start from the Moteino schematic and delete all the parts you don't need, and you're left with the aligned headers.
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: TomWS on October 31, 2014, 09:05:24 AM
That's an interesting approach.  I hadn't thought of that.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Tom
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: TomWS on October 31, 2014, 09:41:57 AM
Quote from: Felix on October 31, 2014, 08:47:40 AM
Tom, in the nick of time - you could simply start from the Moteino schematic and delete all the parts you don't need, and you're left with the aligned headers.
That seems to work.  I now have a project that gives me a standalone MoteModule schematic and footprint (I'll need to be REAL careful to move these as a group!).  I can build on this for the first project using Moteino as a module.  I still would like a library module, but this is a good start.

I'm a total Eagle newbie and trying to tenderly walk toward my first board without breaking anything...

Thanks.
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: TomWS on November 06, 2014, 04:50:18 PM
I am attaching an eagle library that provides a Moteino 'module' device.  The device has two package variants, the first provides pads that would accept 0.025" square posts, while the second would accept 0.031" wires and has clearance for routing wires between pins.

Important caveat: I am a TOTAL Eagle newbie so 'buyer beware'.  I've submitted two boards for fabrication using these footprints, but have not yet received the finished PCBs.  Hence, the library is 'untested'!  I've gotten several boards now and haven't had an issue with the library, however, as always with 'freeware', 'buyer beware', this comes with no 'money back guarantees'!

Enjoy,

Tom
UPDATED: 7/14/15 to the latest version of the library.  Includes Moteino R4, Mega, and also Arduino Nano board footprints.
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: gregcope on July 15, 2015, 03:26:15 PM
Thanks Tom, found this handy...
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: jsglazer on October 10, 2015, 01:36:41 PM
Great contribution for the community, thank you!
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: kobuki on October 11, 2015, 03:08:16 PM
@Felix: would it be it possible to upload the Moteino R5-USB Eagle designs? I'm planning to learn using Eagle in the near future for my own hobby projects, starting with the Moteino as base, and I haven't been able to find it on GitHub.
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on October 11, 2015, 10:45:31 PM
@kobuki I'll have to find some time to upload that, there are a bunch of versions already published which should be great "learning" material if that's what you're looking for, have you looked here (https://github.com/LowPowerLab/Moteino)?
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: kobuki on October 12, 2015, 05:56:56 AM
Felix, sure I did. However for the cheaper FTDI chips you use in later revisions, you introduced some simple changes to the design (a set of resistors IIRC). I was curious about those as well. I thought I'd ask because you open-sourced the rest, except for this one.
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on October 12, 2015, 07:51:57 AM
Yes the R5 has some changes and at some point I switched to FT231XS.
Ill try to find time to do it today.
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: kobuki on October 12, 2015, 08:10:32 AM
Awesome! :)
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on October 12, 2015, 08:59:16 PM
Done, it's here (https://github.com/LowPowerLab/Moteino/tree/master/R5USB).
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Sergegsx on August 23, 2017, 07:52:03 PM
Will the R6 moteino eagle sch and brd files also be open source ? Thanks for any feedback
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on August 29, 2017, 09:48:20 PM
Others have asked so yes I think i will open source them but I want to standardize on a versionless release, so im not sure yet how im going to do it.
There's also a new Moteino variant coming so that might influence this release :)
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: ChemE on August 30, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Felix on August 29, 2017, 09:48:20 PM
There's also a new Moteino variant coming so that might influence this release :)

Might it be the 2xAAA variant that I've been pushing for?  Hopefully clocked at 8Mhz on the internal oscillator...
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on August 31, 2017, 08:36:17 AM
You bet ;)
It's the 8mhz that can run down to 1.8v. I need to iron down the details ...
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: ChemE on August 31, 2017, 09:03:01 AM
Sweet!  I need to hurry up and get PCBs.io to fab my AB1815 boards then!  I need to be able to run a Mote off 2xl92s for 20+ years.  Are you putting the battery clips directly on the board?  I haven't made my final design yet, but I do believe there is plenty of space between the 8 PTHs for everything.  I was thinking clips/batteries/328p on the top of the board and radio underneath.  The 328p easily fits between the batteries since the clips hold them off the board a bit.
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on August 31, 2017, 09:17:55 AM
It's going the be the standard Moteino with no LDO and special fuses. No other changes in hardware. VIN and 3v3 pins are connected (both are input).

I have considered adding battery clips but unfortunately the different holders I tried for this project have very different spacing and tabs, also others might consider using different types of batteries. So ... I decided to just use the same Moteino and maybe if there's demand, make another battery adapter shield for different holder options. But honestly its so easy to just take a small proto board and solder the holder anywhere, then attach it to the Moteino on the 0.1" spaced header (GND, VIN).
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Sergegsx on September 26, 2017, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: Felix on August 29, 2017, 09:48:20 PM
Others have asked so yes I think i will open source them but I want to standardize on a versionless release, so im not sure yet how im going to do it.
There's also a new Moteino variant coming so that might influence this release :)

Hello Félix.
Any idea on a release date??
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Felix on September 26, 2017, 02:46:54 PM
If you're asking about the 8Mhz Moteino, it's already available in the shop.
Re a library, I have only released a library that includes PCB pinouts for Moteino and MoteinoMEGA, available here (https://github.com/LowPowerLab/Moteino/).
Title: Re: Moteino R4 Eagle Library Package..
Post by: Sergegsx on September 27, 2017, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: Felix on September 26, 2017, 02:46:54 PM
If you're asking about the 8Mhz Moteino, it's already available in the shop.
Re a library, I have only released a library that includes PCB pinouts for Moteino and MoteinoMEGA, available here (https://github.com/LowPowerLab/Moteino/).

I was refering to the R6 eagle files, I wanted to practice some eagle so I tried to convert your R4 eagle files to R6 but got a bit of trouble finding the space  ;D so I guess you did some rework on the other stuff in it to make space for the new antena plug, new capacitor and moved led.
that was the reason.
thanks anyway felix, always learning from your work