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stern0m1

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rf transceiver compatibility
« on: December 26, 2017, 04:34:29 PM »
Low level rf engineering is kind of new to me...
I am trying to understand the basic requirements for two transceivers to be compatible on the bit level.
Theoretically, two transceivers with the same rf modulation technique and the same frequency should be able to communicate with each other? On the bit level.
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Re: rf transceiver compatibility
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2017, 08:56:34 PM »
compatible on the bit level   
What exactly do you mean by bit level?

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Re: rf transceiver compatibility
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2017, 09:09:56 PM »
I mean, that there are different communication protocols. How to understand the ones and zeros may differ.

I guess I mean to ask in different words, if two transceivers at the same frequency with the same rf modulation technique would be able to communicate on the hardware level. Or if there are other details to consider on the hardware level.

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Re: rf transceiver compatibility
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2017, 02:22:15 PM »
I mean, that there are different communication protocols. How to understand the ones and zeros may differ.

I guess I mean to ask in different words, if two transceivers at the same frequency with the same rf modulation technique would be able to communicate on the hardware level. Or if there are other details to consider on the hardware level.

Different modulations represent the bits in different ways. Just to name a few "simpler" modulations: frequency shift (FM/FSK), amplitude shift (AM/OOK), phase shift (PSK).
Also different radio modules implement different schemes to perform a transmission-reception. In digital communications (FSK), they are sending bits (vs. sound/music/speach in FM), in which case the shifting is very distinct (just 2 frequencies ideally).
And then you have the protocol of each module which is more about how to pack/unpack the information (the useful information from a transmission) which may differ from implementation to implementation, and is more about the data than the modulation of the data. WRT modulation there are many parameters that define it and it's not just about the "same" frequency and modulation scheme that makes 2 radios communicate. I would suggest spending some time looking around the web for some good courses/papers on how this all works. Then some of these terms will start to make sense. FWIW the radio modules like RFM69 (ie SX1231h) make it very "easy" to plug and play a lot of the parameters that makes wireless comms possible.

BTW, it's the truth that it all started with a moteino... Tinkering with a moteino really got me interested in electronics...

Great to know! :)