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Hardware support => Moteino => Topic started by: Zeph on April 27, 2014, 07:19:30 PM

Title: Any reason RFM69HW cannot substitute for RFM69W?
Post by: Zeph on April 27, 2014, 07:19:30 PM
As best I can tell so far, a Motino with RFM69HW can do everything the RFM69W does, and probably has about the same power usage if you do not enable the higher power modes.  So the extra cost would be the only downside of using the HW.

Right?

Or is there something I'm missing?
Title: Re: Any reason RFM69HW cannot substitute for RFM69W?
Post by: Felix on April 28, 2014, 08:23:58 AM
"Extra cost" ...  haha ;D
It's like when you want to buy a regular Audi and a turbo charged one. Both look the same, smell the same, drive the same, but the turbo gives you extra adrenaline. That's why you pay "extra" for it ;)
Title: Re: Any reason RFM69HW cannot substitute for RFM69W?
Post by: Zeph on April 30, 2014, 12:20:08 PM
The "extra cost" is just $1/module or moteino, very modest

I'm asking if there is any downside to using the 69HW vs 69W, other than that buck.  To use your analogy, does the turbo model lack any feature, or get worse gas milage even if you don't turn on the turbo?

Sometimes that happens with chips - in choosing the version with some desirable trait, you have tradeoffs in some other area - voltage range, min power, some feature.  I'm guessing that's not the case with the RFM69W vs HW tho.  If you don't turn on the Turbo, it works EXACTLY like the base model.
Title: Re: Any reason RFM69HW cannot substitute for RFM69W?
Post by: Felix on April 30, 2014, 03:29:48 PM
Well several threads in the forum discuss some of the differences. Mainly the HW uses a different amplifier output, which gives you the extra 7dBm of gain. So that will eat a lot more power. Physically there's a bunch more circuitry on the HW.
You can turn power down on either W or HW but I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense to use the HW at W capacity.
Title: Re: Any reason RFM69HW cannot substitute for RFM69W?
Post by: Zeph on May 22, 2014, 12:57:12 PM
For anyone who encounters this thread, see the thread https://lowpowerlab.com/forum/index.php/topic,362.0.html

It turns out that the 69HW doesn't simply scale back to 69W power ranges.

Unless John finds a way to disable RXTX, and the library remaps desired power levels to multiple register settings...