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G550_Pilot

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MightyHat Battery Question
« on: October 28, 2017, 10:33:38 PM »
So I have a few of the MightyHats on my pool project. They work fantastic. But I lost power the other day for about 10 minutes and in that time I lost my main mightyhat due to low voltage on the battery.

I am using this battery:

https://www.adafruit.com/product/354

I went out today and pulled the main power and sure enough, within about 15 seconds the MightyHat kicked off saying low voltage shutdown.

It has been in "production" for over a year at our house in Phoenix, AZ. Temps inside the fan cooled box can reach upwards to 130F in the summer.

I am surprised that the battery did not last very long. What I was wondering is if it would be OK to get two or three of these batteries:

https://www.adafruit.com/product/353

and wire them in parallel to get some decent backup time. I just don't know if the MightyHat has the charging capability to handle a recharge on three batteries.


What I would really like to get is get a small UPS battery (6V AGM) (http://www.gruberpower.com/6-volt-12-amp-hour-ah-battery) and put a buck converter on it to get it to 3.7V to give me some serious backup time. But I assume I would have to have a different battery charger other than the MightyHat.


Thoughts??


 

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Re: MightyHat Battery Question
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2017, 04:50:55 PM »
Not sure what sketch you use on them, but I would check that the battery is around 3.4V to consider it almost drained, for the purpose of shutting off your Pi.
For a typical setup even a 2000mAh should last a pretty long time, maybe 1-2 hours.
Chinese batteries can sometimes be flaky, in my own experience. Extreme temps (in my case below 32F) will affect them, I can only assume extreme heat will also harm them.
So how they respond under a dynamic load can influence their performance long term.
If you can, hook up an oscilloscope to the battery volts and see what happens if you pull the plug. They should hold steady as they slowly discharge if they are in good condition. If there's a mess of noise or spikes and drops then the battery is no good, and the battery checking code can read one of those drops and issue the shutdown.
The MHat uses the MCP73831 charger, it's a simple setup and default is a light 212mA charge current.
I would probably not recommend using batteries in parallel since the charger was not designed to charge parallel cells, only 1 cell. I would first try another battery if you're having issues with your current one.

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Re: MightyHat Battery Question
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2017, 09:10:51 PM »
Thanks Felix - I'm using the stock sketch for the MightyHat with some changes for the LCD. No changes were made to the charging or shutdown routines in the sketch.

I'll try another battery and see what happens from there.

Also, can I disable the charging circuit on the MightyHat and us an external charger with a larger battery instead?

Thanks

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Re: MightyHat Battery Question
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 08:53:18 AM »
RE disabling charging - Maybe desoldering the charger would work. Since I never tried that I don't recommend it.